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It's amazing to look back on the dub era from the standpoint of today, when the show is practically gone in the US, and see how fandom (particularly online) has changed in the near-decade that's gone by.

I remember looking for information on the show back in early 1996 and finding a couple of very funny and informative websites. Some, though, are hilarious only in hindsight, like a page that said "Uranus" and "Neptune" were only rumors and that not one knows what's been happening in the mythical 'SuperS' season.

One of the first ones I visited, which I'm absolutely amazed is still around, is "Sailor Moon Says: Your Daily Alternative."

http://home.mindspring.com/~anjiro/sm.html

This place still makes me laugh. (If you haven't read the parodies, go to it.) And I still have 1996 printouts (from an Okidata dot matrix) of some of the "Lita Lettermoon" Top 10 lists.

Capeboy R and I were on the "Looney" (SOS's) mailing list then too. Going over some saved e-mails from the first few months of their campaign is a trip, as the enthusiasm toward the show, and the desire to keep it on the air, is overwhelming. Not even so much toward getting the rest of the show dubbed (although that was certainly a goal); we just wanted it to stay on TV.

Similar enthusiasm today to me seems impossible. Keeping the show on the air for most of us just isn't a big deal, and the majority of fans have been jaded over the years. It seems natural that, particularly given the hack jobs the show has suffered on US TV, few fans really want or care if it's on the air. We've all seen it so many times, after all.

If we step back, though, and look at the fandom of other 'cartoon' series, like maybe Robotech (or, bringing up what YingGirl mentioned in the OAMVG forum, Samurai Pizza Cats), they still want their show on US TV, not because otherwise they can't watch it (I'm sure the majority of fans have it on tape already), but just to keep the show alive and for it to gain a new audience.

It seems to me that most Sailor Moon fans are different from this and in particular apathetical toward having it on the air. They're more concerned with their personal viewing situation. (E.g. "We don't care if it's on TV- we won't watch it, we don't care if it gains a new audience- big whoop, we just want a better sub version.")

I'm not making a judgement call on this- I'm not saying whether that's a good or bad thing. I'll readily admit to falling into that category often.

I'm interested in if others agree with my assessment, though.

So, particularly the old hands here, tell me what you think, and if you want to just reminisce in general about the old SM fandom, that's fine too.

My reply is kind on-topic, kinda off-topic. A similar situation has also caused the fall of URU Live. As stated in your above post, we just want a better Dub version. For the game, we just wanted the lag to go away. In both cases it is similar.

In URU Live, all of our bitching about the problems caused people that were interested to not sign up untill it had completed it's beta stage. Due to this, the company did not have enough people signing up during the beta stages (IT WAS FREE!!!) to show that when it went GM it might have the possibility of getting enough income to stay afloat.

In relation to Sailor Moon, we have all bitched about something or other, and rather than encouring the comanies to do a better job, we just sulked and bitched. (Of course, not that they would have listened...) I am a late Moonie, I found out about it when it was on Cartoon Network, so I do not have all the info on the early problems. Now I have lost my train of thought... you know that is a really terrible expression!!! Anywho... If I can remember what I was going to say, I will be ba...

Ahh, I remember... Ok, so our current situation is a little bit different. I would love for it to be on TV. Something in my current lineup would be great. However, with the first 4 seasons on DVD in the US and elsewhere, what reason is there to have them on TV? I can pop them in at any time and watch them. But in some ways it is not the same. True, I also want a better dub (I prefered Cloverway to DIC), but we know this is not going to happen, so we give up. And there it goes again... I have gotta catch that train! *COME BACK!!!*

I remember websurfing for SM info a while back. I used to be so confused, all I had to go on was the dub, so it really surprised me to see all this info on the Japanese version. (especially considering the fact that I thought Sailormoon was made by Americans, *sigh* I was so dumb then). It also took me a while to find the true value of the SSP and some of the other quality sites out there, thank goodness they're still around. Although, some other not so good sites are still up too. You'd think that after 5+ years, they'd learn the art of making good, quality layouts and accurate info.

Noone expects the Lunar Inquisition. Or Fun with Fisheye. Or a number of other whacked out things that spewed forth from usenet.

Fun with Fisheye. Now THAT was fabulous.

It would always sort of bother me when they'd stop playing the dub on TV but I felt sort of hypocritical to be upset about it seeing as I didn't bother watching any broadcasts any more. I mean who would I be to harass TV stations to bring back a show when I can't honestly say I'd be watching it every day? Still it was always a concern of mine when the franchise slips. Probably because that just left the pseudo hard cores left and I didn't care so much for them.

Oh and here's my old school contribution circe 1997 or something. A word of warning. There are severe pop ups included:
http://www.angelfire.com/on/ninjzz/sailormoon.html

I'll agree with your assessment.

Back in '95 I just tuned in after coming home from high school, and there it was. After a few more eps, I was hooked. It was such a silly show with a decent plot line. Asking around I kept hearing people saying that it used to be a Japanese porn cartoon and it was modified for our eyes. I thought that was absolutely ridiculous, so I did some research over at my friend's house. He had the Internet at the time, which was still not as widespread back then. There were a few good sites out there. I eventually found Ken's FAQ and was amazed to find out there were other sailors--in fact one for every planet. Who'd have imagined? Images of how their transformations might look floated through my head. Planetary symbols flew in front of my eyes.

I was continually hoping for the new characters to appear soon on TV, but always wondered why YTV would go back to the beginning. Anyway, later on I found someone who had the Sailormoon S movie, so I got him to lend it out to me. I felt pretty at home listening to the Japanese (it was my first time with a sub--an E. Monsoon sub). After my first taste, I was hooked even more. I figured that the new characters wouldn't appear any time soon, so I looked around and eventually found VKLL. I then proceeded with my slow acquisition of all his subs.

Whenever I heard Sailor Moon was off the schedule, I wasn't all too pleased. I was of the mind that it was a great story that needed to be told. I didn't really do anything about it though and just accepted it. Early on, there was enough fan outcry to make the network reschedule it somewhere. There was even a period sometime in the late 90's where it was shown commercial free at the noon-hour. Being that I had already seen every episode several times, I didn't really make an effort to catch the eps. I mean, why tape it when you know what the episode is all about? I suppose this is one reason I didn't follow the airing of S and SuperS that much. I knew everything that was going on. I've seen the eps many many times over. No need to watch.

By the time the S and SuperS episodes came out, I'm sure the NA fanbase had reached saturation point. Tired of waiting, people gorged themselves on the original so much that when it was released here people were just not interested. At least, the people not interested were the ones who had the most power to complain to the stations--this is the maturing fanbase.

Now, I'm sad to see it go, but I know where my resources are if I need my fix. Since I'm working, and I've got the cash, I know I can go and acquire what I want.

I must agree with you.... >>;

Back in winter '98, I first turn onto Toonami and discovered Sailormoon the first time in my life when I was very bored In Nebraska. I keep reminding myself to just see it every day and I was fine. I even let my little sister (She was about 10 months to a year old) see the show.

I was surfing the net after a few weeks, and I found SOS. I thought it was a gold mine back then and I have that on my favorites (till 2000). I also discovered Bunny's site, "Bunny's Tour of the Silver Millennium" back when it in 1st or 2nd edition.

But, I really saw Stars when I happen to see a German site with a whole collection of the German SM Stars dub. Despite, I want 5 hours (because of our slow connection back then) to see Usagi transforming into ESM.

I bought all the movies that Pioneer brought out into the world and eventually watch my first sub (I think), Sailormoon R Movie when I was 12 years old. I also bought the Cutie Sceptre and the funky Brooch that was on the market. In AX2002, I bought my Moon Stick for $20 (I was so happen when I saw Miyuki in an ad ion a card inside the box for TnM). I also got myself a Old SMR Tuxie and my sister a new Sm plushies.

And the most embrassing moment was when I was in 6th grade and I had my whole desk covered with SM pictures to make a girl in class (who like DBZ) jealous. After my teacher saw it, he told us to take the pictures off our desk.

I supported SMS and SMSS on TV when it was on Toonami. I watched every episode not once but as many times when they reaired the two seasons. My sister even watched it with me (She was 2 or 3).

After that, I discovered Sera Myu in 2001. I got hooked on the Stars version of Sailor War Supreme. Then, I lost my fandom a little while. But, I found the same clip and became a fan again. I still have my Mugen fanbook and pencilboard some where. ;.;

But, I did Stars from DC and other episodes from other seasons. I now watch the live action series every week with or without my sister (My sister wants everything BUT the undies >>). Once a while, I do watch a Myu here or there. Am I still a big SM fan? Yes!

To me, while I love subs, sometimes its just really nice to watch an anime with good dubbing. If there had been a decent dub of the show, I'd be watching that as much as the subtitled version. I mean, if a company redid the SM seasons in a good dubbing, I'd buy them because I want to see a good dubbing.

But since that'll never happen, I'll stick to my Japanese subs.

Thats an interesting assessment. I never thought of it like that. In my plans for collecting all four DVD box sets, I never really thought about the show re-airing again on TV. ;; Am I jaded? I don't know. Honestly I was never really a fan of the dub past the initial 65.

For the past eight months, I have been looking back at how I saw Sailor Moon in 95-6 compared to now. I guess one reason why I'm enjoying PGSM is because I feel like I grew up watching "Sailor Moon"/BSSM, and now PGSM has made its mark in a different era of my life.


Jay, do you remember Operation Replay? When the Dub went off the air in September 96, I think it was you who started Operation Replay in hopes of keeping the show alive. We would all get our tapes out, and watch an episode a day, in order, and comment on them on the list as if they were still airing in syndication. I distinctly remember Op Replay making the show feel fresh all over again. Maybe we could do something similar here except with the BSSM eps this time. BSSM discussion on the weekdays, PGSM discussion on the weekends. Just a thought.

I wasn't a fan of the dub past 65 either.



Wow, you actually remembered Operation Replay. Yeah, that was me! Blast from the past indeed.

I'd be happy if people would be willing to break out the episodes again. I don't have the time currently to set things up myself, but if anyone would like to organize that it could be a lot of fun.

haha, cute page. I especially like #1 of the "Top Ten Reasons Why Malachite is a Lousy General":

"1. Gets killed by Sailor Moon, of all people!"

not ONLY does he get KILLED by sailormoon .. but it's with his OWN weapon! .. lmao, that's gotta hurt.

I still love malachite, though. =)

Hmmm...interesting assessment. How do I feel about it?

1) I agree with aDam, why would I harrass a tv station when I know I wouldn't watch it? I've moved on to other things....like Inuyasha and PGSM.

2) Personally, I don't want the dub pass episode 65 anywhere near the tv.
I'm not going to punish people with Linda Ballblahblah's voice.

3) I'm old school SM dub. I watched it at 7:30am on the WB (or was it UPN? I think UPN....) starting in 5th grade. Smashing SM between DBZ and Tenchi Muyo isn't cool. Sailormoon doesn't fit in there. I think she loses her magical girl quality there. CN should do a morning shoujo block. That would be really cool.

4) And lastly, apparently Sailormoon isn't "well received" on tv. Why keep it? Like yeah maybe SM would pick up some new viewers, but why force something upon the tv audience? I know this is surcumbing to the tyranny of the majority but well....*shrug*

I definitely agree with the "jaded" part when it comes to the dub. I think that, unlike most cartoons or Japanese anime, BSSM had the incredible disadvantage of being a poorly done dub. The DiC dub was just good enough to get us all hooked, of course, and many of us still look back on it with a sort of nostalgia (I, too, used to get up at 6 a.m. to watch it every weekday before school), but in the vast hollow gap between the DiC dub losing popularity and S and SuperS making their debut on North American television, many of us made the discovery that the show that we had come to know and love was nothing compared to the original work, and of course sought the coveted Japanese version. We then realized that the series that had hooked us in the first place had been done a great many injustices, and that it was largely inferior to the work it could be. So we put aside that inferior work in favor of the original.

I used to be into SOS back when I was a newb, too, though that phase passed rather quickly when I came across several sites criticizing it. However, that same enthusiasm remained, and I actually joined a different petition movement for a time. I was still apart of that petition when S and SuperS were finally dubbed into English, and the group broke up. However, I was unable to get it at the time, and thus, didn't follow it on tv. I read a few summaries for a while, but as it was looking as though the dub just wasn't turning out as good as fans had hoped, I lost interest. My other reason for losing interest was that, with the dubbing of those seasons, I had joined in the mad rush for VKLL fansubs before the cutoff date, and thus finally got a taste of the original version. Suddenly I knew what I had been missing, and I no longer had any desire to follow the dub.

When I finally got to see the dub on tv again, not only was I no longer interested, but I could not stand to see my favorite show butchered in that way. While it was nice to see my show up on the screen for all to see, a part of me wished that that abomination would not be lingering on the air, giving people the wrong idea of what my fandom is about. Every time I heard people talking about "Serena" and "Darien" it made me cringe.

Basically, I think that if it were not for the many injustices done to the series in North America, the fanbase would not be nearly as jaded as it is. However, I think that the majority of fans are now rather fed up with what has been done to their show, and would much rather enjoy it by themselves all its untainted videotaped glory than worry about whether or not others can see a bad rendition of it on tv.

I do believe this is a misconception. There are far more casual viewers than die-hard people who want it in an original form. I'll say though that on the Internet the numbers seem far more skewed away from the casual viewers making the other group seem much much larger than it really is. Now, the casual viewer population has grown up and moved on. It's been nearly 10 years since many people have started watching. Off hand, I've had conversations with friends, roommates, students I've TA'd, and the majority have mentioned how they've grown out of it. That being said, some of the them have told me things like, "I used to love Tuxedo Mask back then ". This is where a big chunk of the fanbase has gone.

The other die hard fanbase is indeed jaded, if only because polarization has been allowed to happen. Seeing all the stuff going on over the Internet over the past few years, I never did want to get too involved. There was no desire to be branded as belonging to one of the two camps. No one allowed a middle ground, which seems to have been a big mistake.

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Especially now that it's been years since the start of my fandom, whenever I see the dub on TV, I'm willing to stop and recatch some of the stuff that got me hooked. To me, it's worth a good laugh seeing it all again. Somehow I'm able to put aside the original story (even if it's just temporarily) just to catch this different retelling.

This is my experience.

most of the early DIC dub wasn't that bad when you compare it to what CWI did ...

alot of the dialouge was funny. And traci hawks wasn't bad either. =)

I have to agree. A couple of the voice actors weren't that bad. I actually really liked the voice they gave to Luna.

Hades- I concur that the polarization effect has been particularly problematic. And your comment on how the casual fanbase has grown up shows the logic behind the fanbases of other shows who want their series back on the air- they know that there will always be a new generation of fans to take their place. We don't have that for some reason.

spirithime- I went through that "cringe" phase myself. At this point I've pretty much grown past it, but I'm still not overtly enthusiastic at wanting the show back on the air. (I'm dissapointed that it ISN'T on the air, but don't particularly care to get it back on. If that makes sense.)

Do you think there's a way to recover the fanbase's attitudes toward the series and "unjade" them/us, or is it somewhat hopeless?

Cordelia- I think it is well received, by children. I know my little cousins would still watch it when it was on. (That's whom it's aimed toward right?)

Given that the children's audience is always there, and you can always show reruns (even though my cousins were watching the show in 2000, they weren't around in 1995, so it was new to them in 2000), it's all the more curious that these companies are not taking chances on it. Look how many other kids series are still going after all these years.

In that regard it's kind of weird, I wonder, why isn't it more successful on air? But I think you hit the nail on the head- it was never done justice by the stations. So when it's not the big ratings hit, it gets dropped.

What's surprising is, if you do a Lexis-Nexis search for Sailor Moon, you can still find plenty of articles on anime in general (still recent ones, too) where Sailor Moon is mentioned. And it's always spoken of in a context like: "[anime is] shows like Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, and Pokemon."

Sailor Moon is still seen as one of the "big three" anime phenomenon. Yet it's the only one of them that isn't running anymore.



I agree, I can still enjoy the DiC dub. Especially if I think of it as a "cartoon" called Sailor Moon rather than a dubbed anime.

To tell the truth, I'd probably watch CWI's S and SuperS a lot more (which is saying actually watching it period) than the DIC except for one thing:

I do and will always loathe the voice actress of "Serena" that they picked. I mean, I'd watch the DIC version over that because I hated the new voice. Terri Hawkes was the best, I know, but I wouldn't have minded a new actress if the actress was actually any good. The new one...ugh. And then there is, of course, "Amy"'s voice actress, which could never follow through on the henshin phrases. At the end of the line, her voice would just fall out and get weak. She sounded extremely self-conscious.

So, even though I figure that CWI was closer to the script in some respects, I'd still prefer DIC over them because of the voice actresses which can make or break a show, IMO.

I guess that was kinda off-topic, but even if they put it on TV again, I'm not sure I'd watch it.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to the "die hard" side of the fanbase. Growing up, I lived in an area where Sailor Moon was largely unheard-of, so the only fans I knew of were the "die hard" ones. It was only in the last few years that I've run into the more casual viewers, who tell me all about their childhood crushes on Darien.

However, it is because the casual viewers never go anywhere beyond catching the DiC dub on UPN or YTV that they simply move on, and that leaves a massive gap in the fanbase. The casual viewers grow up and move on, the more obsessed fans develop an interest in anything but the dub, and there are few new viewers to fill in the gap. I agree with what Jadeite2 said, that BSSM is unusual in that there is little hope for future generations of fans moving in.



I'm somewhat past it myself. At this point, I just don't have any interest in whether the series is on tv or not, which I guess is sort of sad.

I guess you could say the same for me; I don't really care if it's on or not. Why should I watch it with commercials and dub when I can watch it on DVD without commercials, excellent quality, and "uncut" dub if I want?

Ok, adding to the jaded argument, I'll admit I never really watched the CWI dub. I saw a few episodes here and there (got all of at least the Super eps on tape somewhere, maybe SuperS too), but I was really turned off of the dub by the time they aired on Cartoon Network. I was always a bit unimpressed with the 17 "Lost Episodes" that finished the R storyline even though I was happy that Americans could finally see how it sorta ended. Its funny, a few months ago (about the time I stopped lurking and started posting here) I rewatched the original 65 DiC eps out of nostalgia, and actually enjoyed them - even at the parts I cringe at the most.


I'd like to see Op Replay here if there is enough interest. Dont know if I have the time to organize either, but I can help.

Well, I think that's the problem. I remember once, I think I was beging to "get over" SM, and I was babysitting. (Was I 15 maybe? I dunno...) I felt like watching it, and I thought it'd be fine cuz the girl I was babysitting was about my age when I started getting into it. And what happened? She looked at me like I was crazy. She thought it was the stupidest thing ever. I'm not sure if it was the Sailor fuku or the magical concept in general, but I think in general, young girls in America are just not into magical girl anime. I mean, heck, even Card Captors was aimed towards boys. ;

When you said this, it reminded me of the current scheduling on YTV. As I was flipping through one night, I spotted them airing the original Dragon Ball series. The animation was old and the dub theme song was childish and crusty. Still, it's getting airtime while Sailor Moon (a much better show) is not.


Also take into consideration the amount of stress that this show causes the people in charge of programming--especially with battling camps. There's the group battling to get more episodes dubbed. When more come out, they get all the complaints from people saying how it's crap and shouldn't be on TV. Ratings are lower because it not the same as the original 65. People complain that it's not the same as the original 65. One group likes the new music, one group hates the new music. You won't find this with other shows to the extent that you'd find it with Sailor Moon. As much as the die hards are a smaller group, y'all know that they are extremely persistent and vocal--which can be good or bad depending on your point of view.

As much as it pains me to say it, this show is an albatross hanging around a station's neck. The easy thing to do now is to take the quick escape that's now available (oh sorry, the license ran out).

Hmm.. I know a girl I used to baby sit when Sailor Moon was on, and she LOVED it. She was around 6-7 years old and actually knew the Japanese names to characters like Haruka and Michiru... she couldn't pronounce them correctly, but she had the idea.

I knew a lot of other girls who liked the series too. I think it's only recently that girls are moving away from liking magical girl things. Of course I think, in my personal opinion, that the shows aimed at them now are the stupidest things ever created -- which is why I think they should bring back She-Ra and Rainbow Brite. Ha!

No!!! The voice(s) for Serena cracked so badly. Mistsuishi Kotono had a much much better voice and better delivery of the character. Luna in the English dub sounded like a stuck-up British nanny which is totally not what Han Keiko sounded like.... >_<

Seems like most of you got hooked on SM from the N. American dub. Well, I'm from Hong Kong and they started showing the original anime since 1994 (dubbed Chinese). The TV station did a very decent job (since they've been showing Japanese anime for 2.5 decades then already). I remember I was in my junior high years back then and you can see SM goods all over the city. It must have been the height of the SM fandom in Hong Kong. Most of the kids would walk around reciting bits of the episodes. The heat has died down ever since Stars finished airing on TV there. I'm not even sure if they will ever do a Chinese version of the new edition manga (all 18 volumes of the original edition was translated along with 4 out of the 5 art books). It's kinda sad to see the interest die but I suppose it's inevitable. There are new anime on TV every couple months, people are bound to forget the older ones. Although I am sure if you mention "Sailor Moon", most people will know what you are talking about. It's one of those animes that qualifies for "Hall of the Fame" status in Asia but it will never again be as popular as it had been a decade ago.

"No!!! The voice(s) for Serena cracked so badly. Mistsuishi Kotono had a much much better voice and better delivery of the character. Luna in the English dub sounded like a stuck-up British nanny which is totally not what Han Keiko sounded like.... >_<"

true, traci hawks wasn't perfect and mitsuishi kotono was MUCH better, but you gotta admit her voice was much better then sarah ballantyne who played her in S and SS. You want to hear cracking? she does it plenty.

yea, but this is the english dub so maybe they thought she should sound more regal and grown up, since she is the senshi's mentor. But I don't think luna's english VA sounded bad.

Yeah..S & SS was worse. I've only watched them in bits & pieces so I didn't even know at what point they switched the VA.

I'm not saying Luna's voice is bad, it just doesn't suit her character who's supposedly about Usagi's age. I have a Japanese CD from the first season and they have short drama clips by the seiyuus. Luna would joke around with Usagi & it would sound like 2 teenager girls playing around. You can never get that effect with the N. American dub voice.

Ok, I'm not saying the voice actors were better than the Japanese seiyuus. The seiyuus beat out any VA they could ever find for SM. I'm just saying that a select few that they did find weren't so dispicable, even likeable, although not loveable.

Come now. You didn't love Jupiter's voice actress when she ran on in her speech about her "talent"?

Wow, what a blast from the past. Yea, I remember getting up early for school so I could watch Sailor Moon at 7:30am. Oh my, that was around 7th and 8th grade for me. As many of you, I haven't seen past the original 65. Yea, I remember all the shuffling around and the being disappointed in nevering seeing past that last episode.

Even when I heard about it on Cartoon Network a few years later, I was like O.o? I did see 1 episode of SS at my friend's house and it was crazy! It was so off the wall that I was just like, ugh? I can't even remembe what it's about now...

I wonder if I'm just confessing something really embarassing but there was this one day when everybody who wanted SM to keep airing was supposed to go buy boxes of Kellog's strawberry poptarts. Now my moonie friends and I went to Food Lion and we bought a zillion boxes of those things! We were eating them for weeks! I don't know whatever became of that but we were hyped cuz we were helping the protest. I believe in those days, it was called SOS...

Much much later after I had pretty much moved on with life, I was at Wal-Mart and cor blimey there were the R and S movies! I flipped out! I bought the R movie and I have to tell you how good it felt to watch it. When I heard all the voice characters had stayed the same, I was ecstatic! And when I heard the theme song at the beginning, I was seriously in tears. That was a terrific moment! After all those years of being SM-crazy and now I sit here and watch something I never thought I'd ever get to see... I immediately went back and bought the S movie. *I know, what was I thinking not buying both of them?*

So, just three months ago *three! count them! that's means january!* my brother says he's got 2 episodes of SM with real people. I was like, psh, wtf? Are you serious?? We're at home for the weekend, cuz we're both in college (different ones) and he puts it on. My little sis and I cracked up through the whooooooooole thing. We laughed, we cried--it was hilarious! The wigs were a trip, Mamoru wasn't so smooth either and Motoki's turtle fetish was a total question mark. I believe it was act 11. He had half of act 13 and it ended right when Mamoru's following Usagi to shop for "Shin."

So, I didn't think too much of it. I was like, uh, okay. One day at school, I was bored so I decided to go find more of PGSM. I caught onto it right about the time when 16 was just out and it's history from there. I have to say, I was so freaked about the LA. I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it is and I'm pleasantly surprised. It's TOTALLY takes me back to 7th grade, erm, now that I'm soon to be in my 4th year of college. O.o

Two months ago, I finally got around to watch Stars. It was amazing to see that so long after the original 65. I loved Usagi and Seiya's blip.

To this day, I still haven't seen the rest of R nor S nor SS but I don't feel particularly compelled. I'd still like to see at least R and S because I've heard from so many people/places that S is the best series. I'll get around to it eventually, I imagine. Right now, I'm completely immersed in PGSM and that's good enough for me!