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After the episode where Mimete is trapped in the machine, the third season start rushing to the finale. The last three of the Witches 5 are killed in one episode yet Eudial and Mimete lasted longer and Sailor Saturn was barely featured. They really could taken their time with Tellu and Viluy using their own Daimons and Mugen Academy being featured more by maybe having Ami being transferred there to investigate (maybe Usagi too with Luna pulling some strings). Hotaru could've been a Senshi and her connections with the enemy would make for an interesting story with Uranus, Neptune and Pluto trusting her for the time being after proving her worth in battle. Yet they seemed to be urging to end to season.

I've got the same feeling, too, & would also like to see what exactly happened inside Pharaoh 90, but I dunno why.

They could've totally got rid of the last episode of the season & made the prior episodes a bit less rushed, tho.

Haha yeah, the last episode was totally useless. So was the second-to last, come to think of it. They could have just made like the manga and had Uranus, Neptune and Saturn walk into the sunset after the battle.

Well I guess that have a certain amount of episodes they have to keep even or in some balance of some sort. So rushing at the end seemed logical to get all the unfinished business completed, which is rather silly when they could've got rid of those characters earlier.

I'd also like to say that you needed to have a convenient disappearance episode for your outer senshi to explain their whereabouts during Chibiusa's season.

That can only show their bad script planning at the beginning, hence ironically making the story presentation pretty unbalanced.


Yeah. l o l

I think they had many plans like the manga S attacks that never appeared.

There's even that Daimon Irondar who ended up only as a flashback they probably planned to use instead of Daruma.

I always just assumed that is was because they just drug their feat too long with Eudial and Mimete.

I think the writers were running out of ideas. The director wanted to do something different and not be as predictable as the R season. They also did work on Wedding Peach. So yeah they are definitely running out of ideas.

I think of all the Sailor Moon "finales," S was definitely the worst. They had all this great buildup, but they didn't delivier at all. We don't even get to SEE Sailor Moon fight Pharoh 90. Sailor Saturn, who the Outers feared awakening throughout the season, has what pretty much amounts to a cameo appearance and doesn't seem at all threatening, powerful, and awe inspiring as we were led to believe she was. We don't even get to see the "silence" that everyone was fearing because all of Saturn's action take place off screen. Also they never make it 100% clear that Sailor Moon IS the Messiah(even though everyone and their mother already knows, but I digress).

Besides Sailor Moons' emotionally powerful transformation into Super Sailor Moon without the aid of the Chalice, this whole finale fell flat. The director may have been trying to go for something different, but this, imo, just did not work out at all. That's what makes the ending so frustrating. The rest of the season was SOOO good, but then they just practically phone in the ending.This is one of those times where I REALLY wish the anime creators had stuck to the manga ending. It was so much better than this.

Strange how the fan-favorite season had the weakest ending. Well, I don't think more Witches 3 (and I wrote 3 on purpose) would've made for a better show. More Saturn would, though.

You have to remember that the manga hadn't ended yet when the season did.

So many of the things that we feel the anime fell short on are because they kept having to stretch things out. The manga was only putting out one Act a month, where the anime was putting out 4 or 5 episodes. Not a single Act in the SM manga has 4-5 episodes of material.

I don't think it had the weakest ending. It just had a different one which actually was just a regular MOTd. I'm happy though it didn't require the silver crystal to be the answer to every single world threat. Although the season ending contradicts what SuperS turned out.

I just wish that even after the Manga's Infinity Arc ended, the Anime staff started to work towards the ending but took their time in wrapping things up. If they wanted, Tellu and Viluy could've worked together with Tomoe thinking that with two in charge, they'd have better chances. Hotaru could've been helping as Saturn with the other Outers still having their misgivings but willing to let her help... until the truth is revealed to everyone. That would've worked for about 6 or 7 episodes with 5 more for Cyprine and Petirol and the grand finale.

Too much time wasted on Kaolinite, Eudial, and Mimete. When Toei realized that the season was ending, they had to cram the rest of the plot in quickly.

Those attacks seen in the OP? Yeah, they should've appeared in the episodes.

That they couldn't execute what they'd originally planned is in itself showing their bad planning. l o l

I'm still thankful the animation was most excellent(except for a few bad ones). I really hated animation for western cartoons during the 90's when they stopped outsourcing in Japan.

Why do people NEED to see Pharaoh 90 so badly? They kept it hidden from the screen on purpose to make it threatening, but mysterious like visions of the silence were. The fight between Saturn and it would have been like a boring animated RPG fight. Hit, slice, hit, slice. She was building up to her final attack when Sailor Moon got in and finished it off/stopped her from using all of her power. It was the emotional turmoil that Usagi, Haruka, and Michiru went through that had the potential to be more entertaining. Not another final boss fight that went exactly the same way as the other ones did.

Plus, the manga ending to the Infinity arc is short of a joke. They all decide to let Saturn kill everything so the overpowered manga Sailor Moon can bring everyone back with a snap of her fingers. What ever happened to her dying if she uses that sort of miraculous power? It only happened at the end of the first season, and ever since, she's been bringing back the dead and blowing baddies up like it's nobody's business. There isn't much at stake if you can just bring someone back if they die.

Don't get me wrong, I love the manga. I just got really annoyed by Usagi's godlike powers she could use with no consequence.



I'm %99.9 sure Shinya Hasegawa collaborated with Ikuko Itoh for the opening (along with episode 125). He's an amazing animator.

There's a good and downside to it. It makes it more mysterious not to be able to see the battle inside P90. But we don't get to see Death Ribbon Revolution. But yes it is getting boring having to see another explosion of light over and over again against the big bad boss.

Overall I prefer the ending of not needing the holy grail to power up. Didn't like the S movie also where she had to use the silver crystal again and making the scene looked like another fight with Beryl.



I didn't like her Carebear powers when fighting Cyprine and Petite Roll.

I'm going to have to disagree. Pharoh 90 is the big bad. I wanted to see something, and that something certaintly wasn't Saturn doing a somersault into a a ball of flame and having their struggle visually depcited as nothing more than a flickering fire. I mean come on, that was terrible imo. I just don't see why you would build up the silence and Saturn, and then basically have none of it happen at all.
And based purely on the manga, this battle could have been different than the others where Sailor Moon just holds up her silver crystal and shoots a laser at the enemy from everyone's combined power. That would have been lame. But having Saturns DRR attack hurt Pharoh 90 as Pluto closed the time door on both of them could have been very powerful, as it was in the manga. But they got rid of Pluto.

Again, Sailor Moon's emotional transformation was excellent, but it didn't save this episode imo. Someone mentioned the anime didn't know the plots for the manga so they couldn't plan accordingly, so I guess that played a role. But I don't see why N. Takeuchi wouldn't give them some kind of outline of how the story was going to end so they could plan better. But I don't really know the relationship she had with the anime makers.

And for some reason I HATED that when an exhausted Sailor Moon emerged with baby Hotaru from doing whatever to Pharoh 90, Uranus and Neptune just took her from her arms and ran off. Sooo rude! At least in the manga they found Hotaru alone and had a bit of dialogue with the other Sailors first.

Maybe the Western animation companies at the time had already been confident that their skills were matured enough to make all productions on their own?


I'd like to see both the emotional & action parts, not one in lieu of the other. And I still think they should've at least briefly shown what happened inside Pharaoh 90.

Yeah, why couldn't she tell the producers where the story was heading so they could be aware of what they're adapting fully?

Nah. They still outsourced. I blame the animation directors since they never seem to bother to study advance animation techniques the Japanese were already using during the 80's.

Actually, I don't find the ending of S to be weak at all. The crappiest endings, imo, are SuperS and R.

I agree that it would have been cool to see an actual fight between Saturn, Moon, and Pharoah 90, and I DO wish Pluto could have played a part like she did in the manga. But what we did get, I liked. The focus was more on the interactions of the senshi with each other than it was on a token battle, and I liked that.

Sure, Saturn's appearance in the manga was pretty epic, but her "ending the world" was pointless because Sailor Moon just used her ridiculous powers to reverse the destruction a couple of pages later. Creating such a desperate situation and then fixing it with minimal effort from the key players is the height of bad storytelling. What happens in the anime is much more reasonable and well-crafted, even if it isn't as action-packed.

The very last episode is completely stupid, though.

Maybe they didn't listen to her? But we'd never know about such things, unless they'd disclose them one day.


I just based my above-quoted comment on your saying "during the 90's when they stopped outsourcing in Japan" above - I actually dunno much about Western animation.

Have you seen the 90's Xmen opening?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAkL2-vh2Sk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWTad94mre8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El0H26Gxak0

Have seen neither, but can totally see the difference between the two productions (who can't? ).

Why would there be a time limit?

Also, I wish the Witches 5 rotated on who'd hunt for the Pure Heart Crystals. It'd lead to interesting interactions for sure.

This so much. S was a fantastic season but the finale was a major disappointment. All the hype for Saturn and how powerful she is for several episodes and we don't get to see what she is capable of. The emotional Crisis Make Up was good but that wasn't enough. We should've had a real final battle and see Death Reborn Revolution in animated glory.

Lack of organisation!!! I still think that they should have had Hotaru's character better developed and given Sailor Saturn more time!!!
Poor Saturn she's only appearing at the very last episode...