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Ok. I'm not exactly the mod here but you can consider me the pseudo-mod of the place. Here are a few general settings that Battledomes around the net follow:

Bloodlust:
Unless otherwise stated by the OP, Bloodlust is assumed. This means that characters will do whatever it takes to defeat their opponent, even if it might be out of their character to use such abilities (IE: Goku busting the planet, Luke Skywalker using Dark Side-type powers, etc.)

Canon:
Unless otherwise stated by the OP, only canon feats are allowed in a vs debate. (IE: For Sailor Moon, the manga is used, for Star Wars, both the movies and EU are allowed) For more info on this, see the DFW and OBD wiki entries on canon: http://deadliestfictionalwarrior.wikispaces.com/Canonicity
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Canon

Settings:
Unless otherwise stated by the OP, a large, indestructible arena like the Room of Spirit and Time is used as the standard terrain. The standard starting distance for the characters is 20 meters away.

Characters:
Unless stated otherwise, we assume the latest canonical versions of the characters in their respective series. (IE: Current Superman, Eternal Sailor Moon when she had all the powers in the Galaxy Cauldron or Sailor Cosmos)

Equivalence Rule:
Different fictions naturally have different powers. To simplify things, we assume equivalence for all fictions in attributes. IE: Sailor Moon has a ki signature from DBZ, Goku has a starseed, and magic is the same for all things so someone like Pre-Crisis Superman is weak against it since Sailor Moon magic = DC magic.

No Limits Fallacies:
Basically this is when someone tries to claim that for example: "character x can't be hurt because no energy attack can hurt him due to his energy control." IE: Metallia's energy manipulation, while powerful, does not mean she can survive a Giga Slave, since she never showed the ability to manipulate and absorb anything close to it.

Knowledge/Prep Time:
Unless otherwise stated, characters in a fight do not know about each other's abilities and have no preparation time prior to their match.

Standards of Evidence:
Basically, when making an argument, your evidence has credibility in the following order:
1. Feats- actions demonstrated by the character in the source material. IE: Galaxia blowing up a planet with a finger.
2. Implications based on feats and statements- Actions not necessarily performed, but strongly suggested by previous feats and credible statements. IE: Sailor Moon being able to destroy the Galaxy Cauldron based on previous planet busting feats, future galactic-level feats, and Chibi Chibi's statements.
3. Implications based on feats- Abilities implied by previous or future feats.
4. Statements- Character's statements about a certain ability or what not.
5. Implications based on statements- Something that has no real feats to back it up and only exists as a theory due to some statements.

Hyperbole:
Not all statements are equal. Some are clearly false or exaggerated. Here's a classic one: http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/9491/215227-cell_solar_super.jpg

You see Cell claiming he can destroy the solar system. Bullshit. Reasons are as follows:
1. He's a character talking/bragging about his own power (such statements are always questionable).
2. His background is questionable. He is comprised of the DNA of two known braggarts Frieza and Vegeta who had overestimated themselves numerous times.
3. Most importantly, no single feat in Dragon Ball even comes close to solar system busting. So we get back to our friend the no limits fallacy again.

Powerscaling:
This is basically scaling a character based on the feats of previous characters who said character exceeds. IE: Goku never busted a planet, but he can based on the fact that he became much stronger than confirmed planet busters such as Frieza. Even ignoring the statements that he has in his favor, he'd be considered a planet buster anyway due to powerscaling. Powerscaling always applies unless feats directly contradict it.

List of Banned Threads:
1. Religion threads. IE: God vs Krishna. They always cause shit storms. If I see one I will petition for its closure immediately.
2. Nazi threads. See above.
3. Race threads (IE: White guys vs Asians). You see these from time to time, no joke. None of these are allowed.
-Superman vs Goku. I haven't decided to ban it yet. It almost always becomes a shit storm and it's been done to death with Superman almost always ending up winning. I don't think I need to ban this thread here yet, and hopefully it isn't done at all. But if I see the slightest hint of a shit storm, consider it #4.

Remember to have fun!
VS is all about the fun. These are just assumptions to make sure matches go smoothly. If it isn't fun, then you're doing it wrong.

Now let's see some battles!

Oooooo! Can the battle section be red ?

I'm assuming comic book gods are still included like Thor and Hercules.

Talk to Mara about that.



No those are fine. Ancient pantheons such as Greco-Roman or Norse mythology are also fine to use. Only active real world religions are banned.

Now does this section also include other topics like video game characters or television characters? Or even non related topics like bands, cars, or sports?

If it's vs, then the answer is yes.

Ehhhhhhh.... he always blows me off. Not trying to be mean just saying .

Could Belphegor and the other 7 Princes of Hell be used?

Are you gonna ban Godzilla Vs Gamera? That actually causes a lot of BS storms.

I'm not interested in having it out, but what is the extent of Superman's power? I've never known him to be of planet buster level, but that might just be based on the adaptations I've seen.

Basically, so long as he's on a planet with a yellow sun he is practically invincible, hypersonic, etc, etc. Against kryptonite can kill him (green), mess him up badly (red), turn him homosexual (pink, although, that was way back when, I'm not sure what pink k does now), and more depending on the color. Magic affects him like regular humans, and red solar radiation robs him of his abilities.

Is this for real?

I'm assuming a lot of fans hated this idea.

Actually, yes. Like I said, it was while ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite ... kryptonite (oddly, it doesn't say exactly that anymore.)
There's actually an interesting website: http://www.pinkkryptonite.com/

Nazi threads?

i guess having Nazi Germany vs *insert fiction* is also not allowed?

Hmm, still, Goku is more than hypersonic, and in terms of strength....

Forget it, normally I'm very against fantasy using magic to change someone's orientation unless it's a huge ordeal. But I don't care, Superman X Olsen is hawt.

Technically, it was pink kryptonite.
Also, which version of Jimmy?

Cant tell you how funny this is to me.



Reminds me a lot of the silver spoony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OzGCEE ... plpp_video

One of the cuter ones than the one in that page. TAS one maybe...

Not Justin Whalin? The Lois and Clark version?

I just had to look him up. Depending on how he's groomed, he's pretty cute, (though I don't slash live action characters frequently) though this is my first time seeing him.

He's got this really cute "adorable puppy" thing going for him, in my opinion.

Yeah, I really go for that type. I always find the "bad boy" thing so many women have mysterious.

"Mysterious?" Not exactly the word I'd use.

What word would you use?

Adrenaline shot.

Just a reminder of the Battledome's success.

As awesome as the Battledome really is, it seems that when some people make matches, they don't list the stats of the fighters, rules, handicaps, setting, etc.; especially on their first post. The forum I used to go to have a set of rules that will make matches more organized and better discussions.

Not saying that we should copy these rules or anything, but just check them out and think if the rules should be more similar to theirs or not.

http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewto ... 8285717c7e

However, I don't agree with their rule about video game or cartoon characters because I don't want restrict any creative matches of any kind.

I just tend to go with the OBD-style system since that's where I'm from.

Fair enough, I suppose.

Cell claiming he can destroy a solar system is hyperbole? "I've gathered enough ki to destroy not just this planet, but the whole solar system" does not qualify as hyperbole. That is a fairly specific statement, and star busting is the level after planet busting. It's not like he said "I'll destroy everything" or "the universe".

It is one thing to say he is arrogant and overestimating himself, but such an exaggeration to say hyperbole?

Cell was a genius created by the greatest scientist in the universe, and possibly the greatest ever. I think he might know a thing or two about physics.

As for the "no one has ever busted more than a planet", the same thing can be said about Sailor Moon. No one in Sailor Moon has ever busted more than a planet, but that doesn't seem to stop you from claiming she can because she said so.

Somehow, Usagi is supposed to know more about physics than Cell I guess.