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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:17 pm 
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New book - "Yellow Temperance", from Comiket 80 (was last week): http://g.e-hentai.org/g/398539/78289aefd6/


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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

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Finally, a new Venus book. Thanks for the post Mara, and especially to Black Dog.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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Finally, a new Venus book. Thanks for the post Mara, and especially to Black Dog.

Roman! you dog you. I thought you hated this stuff.


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Rika-Chicchi wrote:
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http://bubbadg.anonymous-scanner.net/th ... g-library/

Article about Black Dog's works and discussion.

I like the fact that the writer of that article has become interested in Sailor Moon because of Black Dog's works. :cool:

It got me re-interested in SM during one of the low points of my fandom, So I kinda agree with the guy who wrote it. I love how he Identifies the references in the titles.

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Roman! you dog you. I thought you hated this stuff.

Yes I know I say left and right about how I don't like this kind of hentai, but I, like most people, am a sucker for Black Dog. His work staring Venus especially. My position on Rape in hentai still stands, however. So don't get the wrong idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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Roman! you dog you. I thought you hated this stuff.

Yes I know I say left and right about how I don't like this kind of hentai, but I, like most people, am a sucker for Black Dog. His work staring Venus especially. My position on Rape in hentai still stands, however. So don't get the wrong idea.

I did not. I was just a little shocked is all. It's not like you are the only one.


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My position on Rape in hentai still stands, however. So don't get the wrong idea.

Looks like Black Dog also agrees w/ your position: :P

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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

Where did you see that? I can't find it on that page.

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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

Where did you see that? I can't find it on that page.

On the last page of that doujinshi - too bad Mara's link above doesn't work now.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

Where did you see that? I can't find it on that page.

On the last page of that doujinshi - too bad Mara's link above doesn't work now.

Were there lolis in the book? Usually they remove only doujinshi with lolis. :confused:


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Where did you see that? I can't find it on that page.

On the last page of that doujinshi - too bad Mara's link above doesn't work now.

Were there lolis in the book? Usually they remove only doujinshi with lolis. :confused:

Didn't read thru the pages, so I dunno, but I can't see how there could be loli materials in it, unless Chibiusa & Chibi Chibi are depicted (maybe Hotaru?).

BTW, this's their page redirection message:

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You will be redirected to the front page momentarily.

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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Here is another link that I found for it:

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthrea ... 3%82%B9%29 -*NEW*

I downloaded it and....there aren't any lolis that I see. It's the same old, same old stuff I always see in Black Dog works.

Edited by a moth to fix the link.

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Here is another link that I found for it:

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthrea ... 3%82%B9%29 -*NEW*

I downloaded it and....there aren't any lolis that I see. It's the same old, same old stuff I always see in Black Dog works.

Edited by a moth to fix the link.

That's also my impression. l o l

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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Then again, there is loli stuff that slips the radar on Ehentai.......

Another theory of mine is that (maybe) the page is under construction or something....

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I like the last line on the copyright info page, which means "rape is also forbidden." l o l

Where did you see that? I can't find it on that page.

On the last page of that doujinshi - too bad Mara's link above doesn't work now.

Ah, here's that page:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8656107 ... .jpg.html#

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Thank You!

Here is something unexpected, I was watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 and they were riffing on an old Japanese film called Prince of Space, One of the jokes reminded me of this stuff and made me laugh and laugh...

Tom Servo: "It's the subway fondler club!"

Here is the complete film in all of it's glory: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0759435418

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 Post subject: Re: Discussion: Black Dog's Doujinshi (New Book!)
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I think Black Dog is really good at drawing, but a lot of his work just seems follow a similar formula.

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I think Black Dog is really good at drawing, but a lot of his work just seems follow a similar formula.

Hence, what a waste! :( Maybe he should find a writer & focus only on the art, but then he actually can think up interesting stories - he just doesn't do that anymore. *sigh*

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I think Black Dog is really good at drawing, but a lot of his work just seems follow a similar formula.

Hence, what a waste! :( Maybe he should find a writer & focus only on the art, but then he actually can think up interesting stories - he just doesn't do that anymore. *sigh*


Yeah, and why does it always have to be rape? I know he makes it so the girls secretly enjoy it, but I think it'd be easier to read if the whole thing was consensual.

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I think Black Dog is really good at drawing, but a lot of his work just seems follow a similar formula.

Hence, what a waste! :( Maybe he should find a writer & focus only on the art, but then he actually can think up interesting stories - he just doesn't do that anymore. *sigh*


Yeah, and why does it always have to be rape? I know he makes it so the girls secretly enjoy it, but I think it'd be easier to read if the whole thing was consensual.

I agree. It's hard to turn away from that stuff however.

If the stories where in a different context, they could easily pass off as horror stories.

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Hence, what a waste! :( Maybe he should find a writer & focus only on the art, but then he actually can think up interesting stories - he just doesn't do that anymore. *sigh*


Yeah, and why does it always have to be rape? I know he makes it so the girls secretly enjoy it, but I think it'd be easier to read if the whole thing was consensual.

I agree. It's hard to turn away from that stuff however.

If the stories where in a different context, they could easily pass off as horror stories.

It could be more interesting if it were a genuine horror story.

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My Ideas for a SM horror doujin would be something like a slasher film. Bloody, but still well written and drawn to draw you in. I would like to have a big twist where one of the girls would be the killer.

(don't judge. I like slashers)

The Rape/Revenge genre of slashers would also be a choice. It would also make the Rape something NOT to enjoy.

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The Rape/Revenge genre of slashers would also be a choice. It would also make the Rape something NOT to enjoy.

Like raping a girl and drilling her head with an electric screwdriver at the same time? :eek:


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The Rape/Revenge genre of slashers would also be a choice. It would also make the Rape something NOT to enjoy.

Like raping a girl and drilling her head with an electric screwdriver at the same time? :eek:

NO! That is Gorno. Bad, bad, thinking. My slasher story would have the electric screwdriver...without the sex.

Rape/Revenge as explained by wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_and_revenge_film

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My Ideas for a SM horror doujin would be something like a slasher film. Bloody, but still well written and drawn to draw you in. I would like to have a big twist where one of the girls would be the killer.

(don't judge. I like slashers)

The Rape/Revenge genre of slashers would also be a choice. It would also make the Rape something NOT to enjoy.

That sounds like Kill Bill to me. :) (The Bride must be Usagi, then, since she's the only bride in the Sailor Moon story l o l - Mako in PGSM hasn't become a bride yet since she's just accepted Motoki's proposal at Usagi's wedding.)

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This (non Black Dog) Doujin is what I mean.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/398457/fa368818ee/

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Honestly, I can't stand BM's doujins anymore. When they first appeared on the scene, they were enjoyable stories that, if anybody had the talent to, could be redrawn, rewritten, and edited to have no sex/rape and still be a good read.

Now, however, I am disgusted. The stories have become every other hentai in existence. SM characters go on train to give themselves up to monsters for info. SM characters get raped by older men. SM characters give up and go for it.

Really? I am pretty sure that in the actual series most of those would be rapist monsters/old men would be dead in seconds. They don't even fight back anymore. It's like they have become idiots.

The new book mentioned above is an example of what I mean. I can't judge yet because I can't read Japanese, but I bet it's the same crap I see everywhere. ''I don't want to get raped''...yet you are just sitting there taking it? Really?

I think ridiculousness has to stop.


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Honestly, I can't stand BM's doujins anymore. When they first appeared on the scene, they were enjoyable stories that, if anybody had the talent to, could be redrawn, rewritten, and edited to have no sex/rape and still be a good read.

Now, however, I am disgusted. The stories have become every other hentai in existence. SM characters go on train to give themselves up to monsters for info. SM characters get raped by older men. SM characters give up and go for it.

Really? I am pretty sure that in the actual series most of those would be rapist monsters/old men would be dead in seconds. They don't even fight back anymore. It's like they have become idiots.

The new book mentioned above is an example of what I mean. I can't judge yet because I can't read Japanese, but I bet it's the same crap I see everywhere. ''I don't want to get raped''...yet you are just sitting there taking it? Really?

I think ridiculousness has to stop.

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Honestly, I can't stand BM's doujins anymore. When they first appeared on the scene, they were enjoyable stories that, if anybody had the talent to, could be redrawn, rewritten, and edited to have no sex/rape and still be a good read.

Now, however, I am disgusted. The stories have become every other hentai in existence. SM characters go on train to give themselves up to monsters for info. SM characters get raped by older men. SM characters give up and go for it.

Really? I am pretty sure that in the actual series most of those would be rapist monsters/old men would be dead in seconds. They don't even fight back anymore. It's like they have become idiots.

The new book mentioned above is an example of what I mean. I can't judge yet because I can't read Japanese, but I bet it's the same crap I see everywhere. ''I don't want to get raped''...yet you are just sitting there taking it? Really?

That's a good review of his works. :)

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Can't see that it'd be likely, tho. *sigh*

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@turnAmagic90: You raise a good point with what you said. I would like to see someone do a Non-H doujin series for SM, like what was done for series like Evangelion (There is also a edited version of a H series that has gotten to be quite successful with the fandom).

I will say this, And this is after browsing around at sailormoonbiz, I would rather read his stuff than the crap that has recently been posted on that site: http://sailormoon.biz/displayimage.php? ... play_media

and: http://sailormoon.biz/displayimage.php? ... play_media

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