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 Post subject: Games are so evil, they need warning labels.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:35 pm 
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Congressmen Joe Baca (D-Calif.) and Frank Wolf (R-Va.) have introduced a lovely bill this week that would treat videogames like cigarettes, forcing them to carry warning labels. Should the bill become law, all games would have to carry the following warning:

WARNING: Exposure to violent video games has been linked to aggressive behavior.

Aside from the fact that it's just not true (there is still no conclusive link, and the tests performed to date have been sketchy at best), the Violence in Video Games Labeling Act seems like yet another wasteful endeavor to implement something that'll get shot down for being unconstitutional.

I'd love to see Baca and Wolf's evidence, though. They say it exists, but fail to provide any proof.

"Just as we warn smokers of the health consequences of tobacco, we should warn parents -- and children --about the growing scientific evidence demonstrating a relationship between violent video games and violent behavior," claimed Wolf. "As a parent and grandparent, I think it is important people know everything they can about the extremely violent nature of some of these games."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of nonsense we pay old men to think about. Isn't it lovely?

Here's the entire bill (labeled H.R. 4204), in any case. What a crock of shit:

To require certain warning labels to be placed on video games that are given certain ratings due to violent content.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION REGULATION.

a) REGULATION.—Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Consumer Product Safety Commission shall promulgate regulations to require the warning label described in subsection (b) to be placed on the packaging of any video game that is rated ‘‘E’’ (Everyone), ‘‘Everyone 10+’’ (Everyone 10 and older), ‘‘T’’ (Teen), ‘‘M’’ (Mature), or ‘‘A’’ (Adult) by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board.

(b) WARNING LABEL CONTENT.—The warning label required under a regulation issued under subsection (a) shall be placed in a clear and conspicuous location on the packaging of the applicable video game and shall state: ‘‘WARNING: Exposure to violent video games has been linked to aggressive behavior.’’.

(c) VIDEO GAME DEFINED.—As used in this Act, the term ‘‘video game’’ means any product, whether distributed electronically or through a tangible device, consisting of data, programs, routines, instructions, applications, symbolic languages, or similar electronic information (collectively referred to as ‘‘software’’) that controls the operation of a computer or telecommunication device and that enables a user to interact with a computer controlled virtual environment for entertainment purposes.

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 Post subject: Re: Games are so evil, they need warning labels.
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Maybe those politicians should also stick a warning label on their foreheads (like an ofuda). :P

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That's...

You know the ESRB labels do exactly the damn same thing, labeling games for their audience and telling what's in the game as well.

The problem is that parents don't bloody look at it and thinks it's OK for Little Jimmy to play Call of Duty cause all his friends have it.

So yeah, it's pretty stupid that we have to get law makers to make decisions that parents are supposed to make for raising their kids.

Why are these people in the Government again?

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That's...

You know the ESRB labels do exactly the damn same thing, labeling games for their audience and telling what's in the game as well.

The problem is that parents don't bloody look at it and thinks it's OK for Little Jimmy to play Call of Duty cause all his friends have it.

So yeah, it's pretty stupid that we have to get law makers to make decisions that parents are supposed to make for raising their kids.

Why are these people in the Government again?

Maybe in the future all kids will be raised by the state, since parents are deemed to be too unprofessional for the job. l o l

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 Post subject: Re: Games are so evil, they need warning labels.
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That's...

You know the ESRB labels do exactly the damn same thing, labeling games for their audience and telling what's in the game as well.

The problem is that parents don't bloody look at it and thinks it's OK for Little Jimmy to play Call of Duty cause all his friends have it.

So yeah, it's pretty stupid that we have to get law makers to make decisions that parents are supposed to make for raising their kids.

Why are these people in the Government again?

Funny, my mother happens to NOT be one of those people. She barely lets Teen rated games in her house.

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 Post subject: Re: Games are so evil, they need warning labels.
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Maybe those politicians should also stick a warning label on their foreheads (like an ofuda). :P


LOL I'm laughing so hard at this. :lol:

I can already see Rei jumping before one politician, screaming "AKURYO TAISAN".


Seriously. We had violence for centuries even before TV games were invented. Sometimes even worse kinds of violence. They act like games will bring the end of the world.

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Seriously. We had violence for centuries even before TV games were invented. Sometimes even worse kinds of violence. They act like games will bring the end of the world.

Nah, it's going to be the history teachers, due to teaching the Revolutinary War, the Crusades, etc.

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Nah, it's going to be the history teachers, due to teaching the Revolutinary War, the Crusades, etc.


So my theory is confirmed! School kills! P-:

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Seriously. We had violence for centuries even before TV games were invented. Sometimes even worse kinds of violence. They act like games will bring the end of the world.

Nah, it's going to be the history teachers, due to teaching the Revolutinary War, the Crusades, etc.

And also the lyrics of the national anthems of quite a number of countries are pretty violent & bloody, I'd say.

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Maybe those politicians should also stick a warning label on their foreheads (like an ofuda). :P


LOL I'm laughing so hard at this. :lol:

I can already see Rei jumping before one politician, screaming "AKURYO TAISAN".

Her dad is also a politician, BTW. l o l

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 Post subject: Re: Games are so evil, they need warning labels.
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I don't think this will go through. But if it does I think I really will throw ofuda at the people involved.

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I don't think this will go through. But if it does I think I really will throw ofuda at the people involved.

I prefer metal charms with Satanic symbols myself. :P

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Her dad is also a politician, BTW. l o l


The cosmos is explained. At last! :cool:

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Tobacco and games are a different thing. Games don't have that effect to everyone, while smoking destroys your lungs no matter how your mind is structured or what your lungs are like.

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Tobacco and games are a different thing. Games don't have that effect to everyone, while smoking destroys your lungs no matter how your mind is structured or what your lungs are like.

How about booze, then? :)

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And unsafe sex could also be bad for health - maybe everyone should also have a warning sign tattooed near that part of the body. :P

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And unsafe sex could also be bad for health - maybe everyone should also have a warning sign tattooed near that part of the body. :P


Rika, you would make an excellent politician. P-: :lol:

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And unsafe sex could also be bad for health - maybe everyone should also have a warning sign tattooed near that part of the body. :P


Rika, you would make an excellent politician. P-: :lol:

At least I could go even further than those Congressmen. :P

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Tobacco and games are a different thing. Games don't have that effect to everyone, while smoking destroys your lungs no matter how your mind is structured or what your lungs are like.


I don't believe there's any correlation between violent video games and increased susceptibility to violent behavior actually.

Even with smoking some people are more resilient than others.

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At least I could go even further than those Congressmen. :P


The real question is: do you even want it? Danger is fun.

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Tobacco and games are a different thing. Games don't have that effect to everyone, while smoking destroys your lungs no matter how your mind is structured or what your lungs are like.


I don't believe there's any correlation between violent video games and increased susceptibility to violent behavior actually.

Actually there're also studies showing the opposite. l o l

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That's true, but basing on statistics & probabilities, the health hazard of smoking & the resultant social & economic costs/burdens on public health are pretty real. :)

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Rika-Chicchi wrote:
Usapon wrote:
Tobacco and games are a different thing. Games don't have that effect to everyone, while smoking destroys your lungs no matter how your mind is structured or what your lungs are like.

How about booze, then? :)


Doesn't think about psychology or liver's precise anatomy either. :P

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And unsafe sex could also be bad for health - maybe everyone should also have a warning sign tattooed near that part of the body. :P


Good one. We've gotta do that. XD
Tho, people do take a look at each other before that, unless they're blinded by their arousal. P-:


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Even with smoking some people are more resilient than others.


True.

Nevermind wrote:
I don't believe there's any correlation between violent video games and increased susceptibility to violent behavior actually.


I've heard it's scientifically proven that some [children?] are more susceptible to all kinds of influences like that, not just violent ones.
EDIT: Oh, Rika got that one already.

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Good one. We've gotta do that. XD

That'd be included in my election manifesto. :)

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The more warning signs & labels the better. :)

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Good one. We've gotta do that. XD

That'd be included in my election manifesto. :)


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VOTE RIKA

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NO! BECAUSE HE IS VAMPIRE!

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The more warning signs & labels the better. :)


Fluorescent ones? :eek:

*great DSBM, you gave him ideas*

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if it really takes politics to tell parents whats good and bad they might as well go to tv shows and say Sex and the City is not safe for children but CSI is great for them to watch.....unbelievable.


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*face palm* Good Lord, it's the year 2012 and people are still trying use video games as a scapegoat for why this generation of kids are so screwed up. How about looking into bullying, peer pressure, and MTV? I can't speak for others, but video games helped me cope with the crap the I went through growing up and I was lucky to have a mom who thought video games were "only for kids" and never bothered looking at the rating, letting me sneak in a lot of T and M rated games(I was mature for my age back then and could handle the so-called "evil" games).

Besides, do I need to mention the Wii; a console that made games that encourage a lot of people(including myself) to lose weight. I really do like living in America; no country is perfect, but still it's too dang sensitive and unable to accept responsibility for its own good.


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if it really takes politics to tell parents whats good and bad they might as well go to tv shows and say Sex and the City is not safe for children but CSI is great for them to watch.....unbelievable.


:lol: but CSI isn't good for them..

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*face palm* Good Lord, it's the year 2012 and people are still trying use video games as a scapegoat for why this generation of kids are so screwed up.


I don't believe this generation is any more "screwed up" than any other generation.

Depending on what you mean by "screwed up" of course. But the general usage of the term? Nah.

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The problem is that parents don't bloody look at it and thinks it's OK for Little Jimmy to play Call of Duty cause all his friends have it.


Its funny cuz at work, we need to see a drivers license in order to sell a rated M video game: The computer simply won't let us continue with the sale without swiping a driver's license. Parents get all huffy and ask why they need to show ID. Maybe because you are buying your child a game that's rated M...?

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I'll agree to this...

under the condition that we can also slap a warning label on parents that couldn't raise a child if they had a manual. You know, the ones that blame everything but themselves for why their child is a moron and a problem to all people.

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